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Post by chapelwood on Jan 19, 2011 18:52:31 GMT
The Class 319s as used on the Thameslink route were possibly the first to utilise a dual supply, using AC north of the Thames and DC to the south (Farringdon is the usual changeover point in both directions). Quite a bit earlier than the 319s were the 313s, which changed from 3rd rail DC to overhead AC at Drayton Park en route from Moorgate to Welwyn Garden City or Hertford. They also used the dual electrification capability on the North London Line between North Woolwich and Richmond, though they have been replaced by new trains on the remains of that route between Stratford and Richmond.
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Post by Duvel on Jan 22, 2011 11:03:51 GMT
With the news in William Dargan's reply #8 on this thread that the Faversham - St Pancras service is being reduced to hourly off-peak (to provide resources for the new Maidstone West service), will that mean that one per hour of the so-called 'fast' Chatham services to/from Victoria also cease to call at Meopham and Longfield?
If a part of the high-speed service is being taken away, then part of the classic service needs to be speeded back up!
Would perhaps be a good balance if one per hour of the Vic services had a 'fast' Bromley South, Chatham, Gillingham, Rainham, Sittingbourne, Faversham calling pattern and the other one per hour did Bromley South, Longfield, Meopham, Rochester and all stations to Faversham. This would also solve the current anomaly of having to change trains with a half-hour wait to travel between Newington and Teynham.
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Post by kevin on Feb 6, 2011 10:22:26 GMT
As a matter of interest did anyone ask about the impending HS1 timetable change at the 'Meet the Manager' session at Cannon Street on 3 February 2011? If so what did they reply.
Is the new service from Maidstone West an all day service or just rush hour only?
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Post by Richard Trevithick on Feb 6, 2011 10:44:04 GMT
Hi Kevin,
Welcome to the forum. :-)
My sources suggest that the Maidstone West HS1 service will be an all day event, not just limited to the rush hour.
However, it should noted that there will only be a 5-10 minute saving, and that is assuming you work closer to St Pancras than Victoria. Plus on top of the HS1 premium, you'll likely have to pay extra on top for the tube or bus to get to where you really need.
RT
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Post by kevin on Feb 6, 2011 10:52:54 GMT
Thanks for the welcome.
I would suspect that Maidstone commuters would prefer to get back their Cannon St services back again! As I live in Paddock Wood I won't be using the new HS1 service.
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Post by genehuntisking on Feb 7, 2011 9:59:31 GMT
My understanding is that the Maidstone West service will be a peak hours only service. Three morning Rochester - St Pancras trains will start from Maidstone West while three evening departures (one to Rochester and two to Faversham) will be diverted to Maidstone West.
I think there will be an odd contra peak movements in passenger service (i.e. one morning St Pancras - Maidstone and one Maidstone - St Pancras service) for balancing purposes. One of the key drivers of this revision is to reduce movements over Rochester Bridge Jn, which is currently near to capacity.
As a result of the Maidstone West trains, the St Pancras - Broadstairs trains will be made up to 12 coaches (assuming Hitachi can gear up to provide the extra stock again) and will call at Rochester, thus taking up the slack of the withdrawn Chatham line trains.
All o fthis is subject to the route being cleared for 395s. As the Southern "Four trains an hour to Brighton" service shows, don't believe anything until it actually starts. However theer must be confidence as I understand driver route learning will commence soon, if it hasn't already.
The Gene Genie
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Post by Duvel on Feb 7, 2011 15:05:52 GMT
Thanks for that Gene Genie. I have my fingers crossed that your info turns out to be correct and it is only a peak hours service to Maidstone West.
I think an hourly Maidstone service all day every day would be much less used than any other (at least as far as the high-speed part of the journey is concerned) having a smaller 'catchment area'.
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Post by Mike Seery on Mar 18, 2011 11:34:13 GMT
Just to clarify, the submission to the ORR is that the Maidstone W service is indeed peak hour only - switching the three Faversham/Rochester services.
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Post by jumpedup on Mar 18, 2011 14:09:31 GMT
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